Osama, Obama: He is not really lying

The fact that the administration ‘s story about the death of Bin Laden keeps changing does not mean that it’s hiding anything. Liberals and progressives can’t think straight. That’s why they don’t get the simplest messages such as : “Don’t spend more than you have,” and “Don’t wait for the guy who keeps shouting he hates you to hit you, hit him first.”

Incidentally, the difference between liberals and progressives is that the former, by and large, would like what they affirm to be the truth. The latter don’t care because their end justifies the means. I asked one of my progressive Facebook “friends” last week whether he thought that 9/11 was an inside job. It’s a straight question. It should allow for a straight answer. He responded with a torrent of sentences, some about things I did not no know anything about. At the end, there was no answer to my question. His name is John Wolfe. Look him up for a sample of dissembling. I don’t mind give him the publicity for educational purposes.

LeftThought is so twisted, left-wingers often cannot espouse the logical consequences of their own assertions. Here is a current one. In World War Two, we killed about 500,00 uniformed Japanese soldiers to destroy the hideous hyena that was militaristic Japan. None of those soldiers received legal counsel, none had a fair trial. Most were conscripts. Many had not killed anyone. Mostly, their mistake is that they did not offer to surrender. Yet, when one man brags on the world media about killing thousands of Americans and thousands of others (many of them fellow-Muslims), when he proclaims loud and clear his intention to kill more, when he explicitly targets civilians and incites others to do the same, when he does all this under cover of darkness, out of uniform, outside the boundaries of a properly constituted army, a part of the American Left wants to extend him constitutional guarantees devised to protect the innocent.

When you point out the mental confusion inherent in such a stance, they never hold their ground. Quickly, they change the subject to the many crimes of America in general and of the Bush administration in particular. (Of course, current events in the broader Middle-East demonstrate with blinding clarity that G. W. Bush was right all along.) My main point here is that the problem we are facing with a big segment of the American Left is not this or that policy they favor but a cultural problem. They prize neither logic nor facts. Their overall understanding of the world is a mental health pathology.

Note that I have not said a thing about Democrats in general. The Democratic Party is comprised of several segments. These include most African-Americans, who would vote Democrat if Democratic Party leaders were lynching them. (Lest you think I am being gratuitously outrageous here, remember that they used to do exactly that.) Then, there are genetic Democrats, people who vote for the party because their grandfathers did. (Let’s be honest, there are genetic Republicans too.) Then, there are the many union rank-and-file who are simply voting their bread and butter. Many of them are normal on every other issue. They just have a blind spot when bread comes up, and another one for butter. Many are patriots nevertheless. Finally, there is the hard, collectivist left-wing that has been trying to capture the Democratic Party for forty years. That’s Obama’s Left. Those are his friends and his entourage. They are the bearers of the perverse culture I alluded to above. Our universities overflow with them (although most college professors are only knee-jerk liberals.)

I am perplexed by some of the commentaries I hear in the media about Bin Laden’s untimely demise. Even some conservative pundits use the word “assassination.”  Makes it sound nasty and it’s false. It was the killing of an enemy during an on-going war. Bin Laden never sued for peace; he had ten thousand opportunities to surrender. He might even have been able to negotiate his surrender. His choice! Wrong choice, or right choice, depending on what you want from life. Remember that the same thing happened to 500,000 Japanese soldiers. What’s the underlying thinking, I wonder. If you are famous, you shouldn’t just get killed?

I also keep hearing left-wing commentators allude darkly to the Geneva Conventions. I haven’t looked. I wonder if they say anything about someone not in a regularly constituted army acting on behalf of a state killing civilians on purpose while out of uniform. I don’t need to look. I am ready to bet that if there is any mention of such scum, the Conventions say: not covered.

Personally, I have only two comments. As I have said before, disposing of the body was a big mistake. They should have frozen it to answer ulterior questions. The White House is so silly, it probably really believed it showed Muslims respect by dumping it into the sea. In fact, Muslims religious authorities with no dog in that fight immediately commented that so-called “burial at sea” was completely disrespectful for Muslims who have died either on land or close to land. Some people manage to have their cake and eat it too. President Obama manages to have his soup of bitter herbs and to eat it to. All the same. He gave the order to pull the trigger. Not many on my side would have bet before-hand that he would do it. Give credit….

My second comment is that the SEALS who conducted the operation are even more disciplined than they are rumored to be. Me, I would not have resisted the temptation to shoot him in both knees and then, to gut-shoot him. It’s not fair how easily and how quickly Osama went.

Now, a sad commentary about the aftermath of the announcement of Bin Laden going on to his reward. I have written several times on this blog and I have said several times on my show that I have known Muslims all my life and that I have hardly ever met one I did not like. (My radio show “Facts Matter” is on KSCO Santa Cruz 1080 AM. It’s on every Sunday from 11 am to 1 pm. You can catch it on-line.) These cordial relations are not enough to make me close my eyes or my ears. As always, I pay attention to what did not happen. All the heads of state and heads of government of Muslim nations made all the right noises after the death notice. However, my attentive monitoring of the media did not show me any popular celebration in the same countries, not one. Remember that Bin Laden and those he inspired have murdered many more Muslims than Americans non-Muslims. His being rub off the surface of the earth should be enough of a cause for celebration among Muslims. That it’s not requires an explanation

It seems to me inescapable that this absence reveals the following moral calculus among many Muslims, I think, perhaps among most Muslims: Killing Americans is a good thing. Killing Muslims is kind of acceptable if the killer killed enough Americans. Nobody is perfect! I hope I am wrong. I hope someone will show me in logical terms the absurdity of this analysis.

There is a good piece relevant to this discussion in the May 7/8 Wall Street Journal (p. c2) by Irshad Manji. Its title speaks for itself:  “Islam Needs Reformers,  Not Moderates.”

I don’t see why American Muslims who hate Islamist terrorism haven’t yet formed something like a league of  “Muslims Against Terrorism.” It would help dissipate the confusion of people like me if I am, in fact, confused.

I also keep hearing ad nauseum that the killing of Bin Laden is not going to stop terrorism. It gets repeated to the point that it sounds almost futile to have accomplished this long-sought goal. That’s stupid. Al Qaida is a classical charismatic movement. Its leader is an essential component even if he had become only a symbolic figure. The fact is that there have been Islamic fundamentalists for one hundred years. They did not get their act together to mass-murder infidels until the regretted Osama showed them the way.

One more thing: The media are irresponsible in their lack of fact- checking. They don’t even look at their own images. Bin Laden was not living in a “mansion.” He was living in a large, ugly concrete house such as there are thousands of in that part of the world, including India. And it wasn’t worth a million dollars. You could buy its neighbor for $100,000. It’s a small thing but it means that powerful news networks are not paying attention.

PS   Yesterday was Cinco de Mayo. It’s official in most California schools, I believe. No one with whom I crossed paths in the two days preceding could tell me what the celebration celebrated. Anglos couldn’t, Mexican-Americans couldn’t, and Mexicans couldn’t. The latter were able to inform me of what it wasn’t, however: not Mexican Independence Day. I am the only one I know who knows, apparently. Read up on it. It’s a strange story.


About Jacques Delacroix

I am a sociologist, a short-story writer, and a blogger (Facts Matter and Notes On Liberty) in Santa Cruz, California.
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8 Responses to Osama, Obama: He is not really lying

  1. GaryK says:

    You said:

    “My main point here is that the problem we are facing with a big segment of the American Left is not this or that policy they favor but a cultural problem. They prize neither logic nor facts. Their overall understanding of the world is a mental health pathology.”

    I have pointed this out to you on your own radio show and you have balked repeatedly. I think it is likely because the terms I use to come to the same conclusion leave a hint of moral religiosity and you are an atheist.

    So, when I say that the liberals have lost the link between accounting and accountability you seem to want to wax eloquently about “no no no”. No no no, is generally with you the indication that you cannot hear of moral consequence because it posits the view of religion and in particular Christianity for which it appears you cannot bear.

    This shows to me with out a doubt that the link to accounting – accountability that comes up missing, lives and dies inside the fact that truth is required and in fact it is a truth that is not owned by you or by me. It cannot be. Why? accountability would cease to exist if truth were OURS to manipulate AND
    manipulation of the truth requires a proudness that precludes all selfless law.

    So. The solution to the problem of liberal interpretation is the same for your interpretation as well, which is perhaps not *as* liberal but is very very close.

    Liberal interpretation is one that allows itself to be governed aside from any
    absolute fact = and thus I give you this present: facts do not matter any more for you than they do for a liberal who by definition wonders aimlessly in and out of logic and moral indebtedness.


    • jacquesdelacroix says:

      Gary: It’s possible that my mind closes a little whenever I hear religious gobbledygook.
      The argument I began to make about culture goes beyond the issue of moral responsibility.
      I am still working on shaping it. Give me a little time and pray for me!

      • GaryK says:

        Dear jacques

        Interesting the dilemma pointed to when stating that religious postulates are simply “gobbedygook”, especially what you say what you have to offer personally is facts that actually matter.
        AGAIN I say that if what you offer is offered from a place where you see yourself as god, then you are no different than your counterparts in the political spectrum who see themselves also as “gods” as well.
        Until none of us see each other as the “source” of truth we will continue continuing on in this ever more circular irrational discussion that eventually will reveal just how bold a position we take if we can actually see ourselves beyond the accounting and accountability that ONLY exists when truth lives outside of our ability to manipulate it. The very reason we cannot reason comes directly from being unreasonably egotistical.
        Much as with health care and a myriad of other irrationalities being foisted upon us – the irrational will bring in the rationing and it is not even done by Obama as much as it is by those who have driven us to this place of fiat irreverence.
        As far as the Osama Obama rhetoric goes- that we are so unaccountable that we could allow a constitutionally inept as well as constitutionally unvetted man with zero experience to become our leader shows the depravity we allow when truth becomes the “correctness” that posits that anyone’s correctness is as good as anyone else’s.
        We now have our feet so firmly planted in mid air that we have no need for borders yet we are the world’s police at the behest of the democrats use the constitution as tp.


      • jacquesdelacroix says:

        I have trouble understanding what you say, Gary. Much of it does sound like gobbledygook. Of course, this perception may simply be due to my lack of mental equipment. I have no way of knowing. What I know for a fact is that I join thousands of others in using the modest mental abilities (that your God presumably gave us), and rules developed over the centuries to distinguish what’s plausible from what’s poppycock. I don’t know how to do better than this. Those who rely on revealed truth, of divine origin or otherwise revealed, tend to unleash torrents of blood on humanity. So, I am skeptical and guarded. And if your God does no talk to me it’s his damned fault!

  2. moshesharon says:

    It’s difficult to believe that Obama would be stupid enough to take credit for Osama’s death unless he had absolute knowledge of Osama’s demise or he had total control over him in a secret place of detention. Nonetheless, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the whole thing about Obama giving the order to take out Osama was a farce. Most likely Osama was already on a slab waiting to be picked up by our guys. The fact is that nine years ago Osama fled Afghanistan into Pakistan and has been hiding there successfully ever since. Our government couldn’t find him until the Osama’s henchmen gave up his body after he died of natural causes. How embarrassing is that? The DNA bubbamises is a feeble attempt to divert attention from the real story that Osama’s people made a deal to hand over his body for the 25 million dollar reward and other considerations. Obama needed the drama because his approval ratings have been in the toilet so he staged the phony raid after receiving proof that the carcass was really Osama’s. Getting rid of the body in quick time, claiming to have DNA verification, announcing that there are classified video footage and photographs and then refusing to show this so-called evidence all leads me to conclude that if they had Osama’s body it was already decomposed to the extent that everyone could see that Osama had been dead for much more than a couple of hours. More at http://moshesharon.wordpress.com

    • jacquesdelacroix says:

      Moshesharon: Interesting story but I have no reason to buy it. I believe Obama is not lying just at once confused and given to embellishing. If you are right, it should be possible for someone in Congress to find out if the reward has been paid. It only takes one. Same problem for all conspiracy explanations: Even a smallish number of people can’t keep a secret; it only takes one whistleblower. (You look old enough to remember Deep Throat – and I don’t mean the movie!)

  3. Bruce says:

    You covered it. I think it’s so revealing how the media spins reporting of events in favor of Obama. Men from Team Six insert into a walled compound to neutralize the world’s most wanted terrorist, their chopper failing during landing, and accomplished their mission. It makes me wana puke when the media repeats over and over again “President Obama, what a gutsy call!”
    It’s also interesting to watch the administration’s incompetence in controlling how facts surrounding the mission are released. I have heard several completely different versions of what happened and am sure new ones will continue to emerge.
    Finally, the decision was made not to show the death photos because they were very graphic and might offend Muslim sensitivities. It’s a good thing non-Muslims are better sports about it, or the videotaped beheadings might have caused us to react in anger.

    • jacquesdelacroix says:

      Bruce: The media are in love with Obama. They have a long-lasting crush. He is their brown-sugar boy. It’s like eating chocolate: you always want more. It was a gutsy call …. for Obama. I think neither your nor I would have bet last Friday that he would authorize the mission. It was out of character; I mean it was out of lack of character.

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